linda kasabian daughter tanya

She is a good person, who became involved with the wrong people. In fact, if I recall correctlyI believe she said earlier to her attorneys they went back to the ranch. Now DailyMail.com can exclusively disclose that Linda Kasabian, 68, is living in a modest apartment complex in Tacoma, Washington, not far from the home of her daughter Quanu, 45. Those people would have gone unpunished, and were very capable of murdering again, especially Watsonwhich as far as I can see was a good thing. :)I'm putting myself in time out for awhile lolHave a great weekend. All is goodI do believe she was largely accurate for the parts that mattered. document.write(part3 + ''); All those who oppose us are 'pigs' and to paraphrase a line used in connection with that bastion of capitalism, Wall Street, 'pigs' get eaten.4. Grim, Probably move the goal posts was not the best turn of a phrase. She married twice and had a baby girl, Tanya, with her second husband, Robert Kasabian. In view of the unbelievably savage nature of these murders, and in view of the fact that hardly anything at all was taken from either the Tate or the LaBianca residences, and in view of all the other evidence in this case, including the statements of Manson, Watson, and Atkins that I have just referred to, a conclusion that these seven murders were perpetrated to help carry out some burglary or robbery would not seem to be consistent with the evidence in this case. No other reason." Before Tate-LaBianca She attended Milford High School in Milford, New Hampshire in 1964 and 1965. That is not my version of Clearly loving your children, but again these are just my opinions.Both of these people were involved in murder or attempted murder. I would have testified without a deal" translates when the evidence is revealed to 'I'm not talking even if the sky falls (but I will for immunity)"I thought that story was a pretty lame red herring and so without context. Damn that clock radio. We believe there to be more than one motive. We know very little of any consequence about what any of them were like or did prior to or after the murders ~ and to be honest, that's how it should be. The LicenseThe license is a bit of a red herring. At the time they went over and killed those people because they believed it was for H/S. And so on.Linda Kasabian is one of the standard knocking posts of TLB. Why?In the grand scheme of things, with all that was going on, perhaps for those few seconds or minutes none of them envisaged Sharon attempting to escape as she was roped up. Or did she have her license because she did not turn it in when it was suspended and it wasn't valid? Here is an example. You don't agree. She's the black loving, anti-racism alternative. When I put this thing together while the high school stuff was fun, for me the heart of the matter was the 'Odyssey' article. That is o.k. Because the logical conclusion of your implication is that he was obsessed with "getting" Charles Manson, even to the extent that he would frame an innocent man and see him rot in jail for life. How about asking Mr. Peaslee why he wanted a divorce based on her endangering his mental or physical health. Clear and simple, murder. Fits her personality (disorder?). Linda and Robert had a daughter named Tanya in 1968. It's not fact. The big question: How do WE know she wouldn't kill? At the start of the trial he said "In this trial, we will offer evidence of Charles Manson's motives for ordering these seven murders. I kept wondering what the relevance was. In Robert's book, there is some discussion on this that is quite interesting.But either way, it's a red herring. She spent her whole life getting into trouble. To me it seems that whatever Pat and Tex thought they were killing people for- would be the motivation or motive for the crime by definition.Even if they realize they were duped later. Like the silly hitchhiking story about Wilson, I now wonder if her account of meeting with the Spahn circle wasn't another white wash. St Circumstance saidThe "They had really bad backgrounds and nowhere else to turn" sympathy is appropriate in cases like.It's paradoxical. As soon as he enters the LaBianca house, ties them up tells them not to worry it is only a robbery he is done. That is a silly discussion. And if robbery or burglary had been the motive, there wouldn't have been any need to print the words in the victims' blood at the scene of both residences. I stand by the observation that no one is totally bad. In late June of 1969, she attempted a reconciliation with. Manson Mythos saidVincent Bugliosi said the only reason Linda went along on those two nights, is because she was the only one out of the group with a valid driver's licenseHe never actually said that. It is amazing to me how many people express feelings such as sympathy about people like Leslie and Linda Good, bright people in some cases?? Linda least of all- the only price she paid at all was karma. She was the angel in a group of murderous devils. Those failed strategies are ineffective in bringing about change. Here is a fact: Krenwinkel never said the motive was Helter Skelter. She did drugs with her child and basically spent her whole life making sure that her child would have the most stressful and illegal life possible. Even her Mum acknowledged that.Don't waste your tears for Linda and LeslieI'm a human being, St. She said Manson supposedly announced it was "time" (seemingly out of the blue) for Helter Skelter. Eventually, Linda moved to Boston where she married a man named Robert Kasabian. It is usually something unrelated to what they are being asked like Krenwinkels Sharon wasnt supposed to be there comment I read about somewhere. But none of us can say what Tex's life might have been if he had stayed in Texas instead of going out to trippin Cal and soaked his brain in bella donna. And perhaps whatever incident was going down with each of them at that moment, it took precedence over Sharon. RH: no that's not what I am saying. Manson Mythos saidThere is an interesting quote from Fleischmann in an issue of the Free Press prior to Kasabian becoming the star witness. She was initially shocked that they'd killed people for money. When she started testifying, immunity was not a foregone conclusion. If Kasabian was what you are implying here, Nader would be dead and with Clem and Sadie as accomplices, no one would be any the wiser. So shove it up your ass. ALL this trying to make sense out of the Helter Skelter race war reminds ME of the "Gott'a KILL the Commie Gooks on the other side of the world" MOTIVE for the Vietnam War.The worst Communists were ONLY 90 miles off Florida and posed a REAL threat to America. document.write(part3 + ''); She worked as a cook and returned to Los Angeles a number of times to testify against Tex Watson and Leslie Van Houten in their separate trials. One or the otherA young Sprite George Stimson and Sandy sit inches away from Bugs and Patti Tate and they all have a pretty good go at it as far as motive and other things :). Dreath saidI agree with your comment about multiple angles. MM, Thank you on the PK- I didn't recall her saying it was but didn't know.I think you have to be a bit careful. I felt like Million dollar Mafiaoso Attorney as I pranced into the Lord's House for some good old American made justice.Thank You Clem: I won't tell ANYONE it's the clothes that make you judicially savvy. If Fleischmann actually did come up with that plan to knock Atkins out of the last seat in the life boat it was brilliant. When he meets up with or has contact with Pat, she waives extradition, even though she's told Claude Brown she's scared of Manson finding & killing her. Dreath saidDo I give weight to what anyone says after they were convicted: Not much. Its Ok to see things differently Grim.You make alot of eloquent points bud. Both began their move away from straight society as young teens. Some I'm not done pondering, some need more research and I am trying to find an expert or two. Dreath saidWhen Patti Tate asks Good why her sister had to die. The failed policies of passive resistance, marching and speeches must give way to the use of violence to bring about social change because the pigs are using violence against us. The two split up, but reconnected when Robert invited Linda to come out to California. Linda Kasabian grew up in New England, dropped out of high school and drifted around the country. That was some eye opening insight. Anyone?Or..to paraphrase others: Life is going to knock you on your ass from time to time. But when I compare the before with the after in Jay's death, for me there's no comparison.The question is why would Atkins leave Sharon, alive and alone, in the house to take this little stroll?Going to get a knife from Linda, struggling with Frykowski towards the front door, shouting to Tex for helpThere is no one inside. This comment has been removed by the author. Try to make an impact, as you put it previously.But it could be so that in this particular instance, that witness is telling the truth. "It was so quiet, one of the killers would later say, that you could almost hear the sound of ice rattling in the cocktail shakers in the homes way down the canyon.". ]MR.BUGLIOSI: It is not a compound question, it is one single question. This guy said she carried a knife eith her at all times linda was still frightened of manson family finfing her. Your Resource for the Tate-LaBianca (TLB) Murders. After the bulk of her testifying, the judge was petitioned and he signed the papers.How does Linda represent the "Human" side of the Manson story?? Sure, I see all that but what are the statistics for us on this site related to those issues? It's intriguing if nothing else. His closing argument, like the closing argument of any attorney, is just that 'argument'. 'Best at the backhand slash' might not have sold well to the jury. In March of 1970, Kasabian gave birth to a baby boy, which she named Angel. So when I started my lawsuits, I went to a Salvation Army store and with the luck of the Vikings, some guy had just donated a bunch of HIS custom made Italian suits. Very Well Saidand again. After her sophomore year she dropped out to marry Robert Moses Peaslee. :-), "When they go low- I get high"or something like that lol. "I am here because I wanted to tell the truth. I try not to view life in a binary way. Talks about how she had to put real strength into stabbing a human because it wasn't like cutting meat. Dreath saidIf you really want my opinion- to me it confirms she had no intention of testifyingAnd yet, she did testify.I agree with you to an extent. You shouldn't stop- that is fascinating stuff Saint, I just watched that. Linda took the witness stand in a series of trials and retrials. While the attorneys dropped the defense on the ground's they didn't want their clients to commit suicide, Fitzgerald at least voiced the opinion it would have been suicide for Manson as well, as it would have only proven Bugliosi's case right.What is funny, is that Manson is demonized for supposedly trying to make the girls take the rap to save him. var part1 = "david"; var part1 = "matt"; She, like all of us, was/is a flawed person but not totally on the dark side. Overlooking the fact that Atkins sold him out pretty fast and Leslie lined up right behind her to do the same by puttin' on the crazy brainwashed act with Marvin Partwhich Tex actually did to, although failed.We also overlook the fact both Manson and the girls could have easily attempted to put the entire thing on Tex Watson. I guess what I am saying is that people like Linda - and yes, even Tex - may be victims of their own bad wiring, NOT to the point of excusing what they have donebut certainly warranting more thought than just slapping the bad or evil tag on them. Sandy Good said that on a talk show she was on with George and Patti and I think Bugs might have been there too.Thanks though. They had a second child together, and Robert Kasabian left for South America. I do not think that Charles Manson masterminded or ordered the Tate-LaBianca murders. As long as that question hung in the air unanswered, the jury would have a hard time believing Linda Kasabian and Bugliosi's claim that out of all these people who were fully ready, willing and able to murder for Charles Manson, there was one out of the group who happened to be an angel who thought it was simply a "creepy crawl mission".Not only did he answer that question, there was an entire scenario where not only was she asked and had a weapon put in her hand, but one in which she also proved to be a hero and thwart the plan and save a life! The argument was not made at the Manson et al trial. Linda and Robert had a daughter named Tanya in 1968. It was dark for 4 or 5 hours, after it had been dark.Q. He said something to the effect that Charlie had a very strong case and that there was pretty much no evidence against him. Go figure that one out.NOW, thank God, the whole issue of heroes, sacrifice and cowards is finally coming out of the closet. or is that just my imaginationrunning away with me. And even during that phase, they tried to paint her as the mastermind, but no one even attempted to say she killed anyone. No one knows why. She had four children. He reinforced it was alright to act on the dangerous impulses this particular assortment of people had. There but for the grace of.go you and I. That makes Ms. Kasabian (as the key witness) a bit of pet project of mineWhat sort of things would you have done that weren't done by the defence ?There are multiple times where her testimony is not supported by the physical (objective) evidence Can you enumerate some of them ? How perfect. Therefore, as far as I can see, the description of Linda as a hippy, as was understood by those not in sympatico with any countercultural thought, is pretty accurate. Thank you, orwhut, for lightening the mood. Bruce, Tex, Leslie, Susan, Pat, Clem and Bobby all in one way or another made something of their lives without imploding. That is just an elementary interpretation that most will have.But now, nearly fifty years later, allot of folk want to cut the girls a bit of slack - primarily because they all seem(ed) to have repented and become what most would call "nice people".But you don't find many, if any, willing to cut the two Charles any slack. Back then nashua was a small town in nh.Also i personally talked to someone who picked her up hitchiking in nh the 70s.He said she was pregnant must of been her second child. Police investigation ? He wants midnight. But I can't see that all of the chronology matters. See the events in life of Linda Kasabian in Chronological Order, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCNtPU0K_oo, https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/linda-kasabian-11099.php. Don't post that when I'm taking a drink of beer. 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